Stacy Sherman: Why 'Satisfied' Is the New 'Fine' And 12 Reasons That's Not Good Enough"
Description
Low-Cost, High-Impact CX Improvements
The Power of Language:
- Transform "I can't" into "How can we"
- Shift from "I have to" to "We get to"
- Being "impeccable with your word" (inspired by The Four Agreements)
- Words trigger emotional responses that shape customer perception
Getting CX Buy-In Across Organizations
The Alignment Problem:
- CX initiatives fail when metrics aren't shared across departments
- Success came when executives adopted the same CX metrics as the CX team
- Without shared goals, customer insights get shelved with "we'll get to it later"
The Pilot Program Strategy:
- Start small before asking for big budgets
- Show proof of concept with intentional, measurable pilots
- Use success to rally and align different areas of the company
Real Example - CX Day Success:
- Introduced first-ever CX Day celebration at 145-year-old engineering company
- Started small despite skepticism
- Now an annual tradition that continues after her departure
Rethinking CX Metrics
Beyond Traditional Measurements:
- NPS and effort scores are starting points, not endpoints
- "Satisfaction" is no longer good enough (it's the equivalent of "fine")
- New focus: Emotional altitude across every touchpoint
The Emotional Impact:
- Brains constantly cycle between thinking and feeling
- Emotions create lasting imprints that shape brand perception
- Research shows: 12 positive experiences needed to overcome 1 negative
- Measure emotional highs to identify gaps and successes
The Four Rs of CX Impact:
- Revenue
- Retention
- Reputation
- Referrals
The Future of Contact Centers
Human + AI Integration:
- Smart companies intentionally map where humans add value vs. where AI should handle interactions
- The answer is "both/and" not "either/or"
- Critical: Validate designs with real customers, not just internal teams
The Contact Center Superpower:
- Contact center teams speak to more customers in a week than other departments do in a year
- This proximity to customers gives agents unique power to be organizational change agents
- Voice of customer insights should inform product development, marketing messaging, and more
Words Matter in the AI Era:
- Example: Website offering "24/7 support, our guides are happy to help you"
- "Guides" for both humans and AI feels impersonal
- Naming and framing still matters
The Power of Customer Voice
The 10-Minute Video Story: A contact center leader captured customer feedback about a failed new product. At an executive meeting, he played a 10-minute compilation of customer complaints.
- The CEO's initial advisor said it was a career-ending mistake
- The CEO walked out during the video
- Result: CEO returned and said it was "the best 10 minutes anybody's ever played" and named him employee #1
- Customer voice changed the company's trajectory
The Validation Imperative:
- Internal perspective isn't enough
- Customer validation must be iterative, not one-time
- Can't use internal team as proxy for outside voice
- Both internal knowledge AND customer validation matter
The Fundamental C-Suite Challenge
When C-suite leaders aren't aligned in their meetings, misalignment trickles down through the entire organization. This is the root problem preventing effective CX implementation.
Notable Stories
The Morgan & Morgan Tattoo Story: Leadership promised to get company logo tattoos if the team hit an unprecedented conversion rate goal. When they achieved it, 40 leaders got matching tattoos - four tattoo artists came in for the day. The question became: "Is your brand tattoo-worthy?"
Stacey's Podcast Origin: Bought her first microphone for under $50, then waited six months before taking it out of the box due to fear. That mic ignited her journey to intentionally sharing her voice through podcasting.
Living Podcasting: At the conference, Stacey pulled out her mic to record a 10-minute session where Amas (who has Parkinson's) gave direct advice to her relative with a similar condition - creating immediate, personal value rather than secondhand communication.
Takeaways for Contact Center Leaders
- Language shapes reality - Small word changes create emotional shifts in customer experience
- Demand metric alignment - CX can't succeed unless executives share the same measurements
- Start with pilots - Prove value small-scale before requesting major investment
- Leverage your proximity to customers - Use it to become the organizational glue and change agent
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